Monday, January 19, 2015

A SURVEY OF REVELATION 11, PART C

REVELATION 11:3-14:  THE CAREER OF THE TWO WITNESSES
Abbreviations:  NIV:  New International Version; ESV:  English Standard Version; NIVSB:  NIV Study Bible; ESVSB:  ESV Study Bible
SUMMARY
                Revelation 11:3-14 gives a coherent narrative of “two witnesses.”  These two prophesy for a period of 3 ½ years.  Then, they are killed by the “Beast.”  Their bodies lie in on a street for 3 ½ days.  Then, they are resurrected and are carried up into heaven in a cloud.  An earthquake follows, and people give God the glory.  This narrative completes the description of the second of three woes (See 8:13.)  I shall summarize my own and the commentator’s conclusions and then give a verse-by-verse analysis.
                There are several issues or questions that reading this narrative gives rise to.  Among these are the following:
  1. Identity of the 2 witnesses
  2. Their purpose
  3. The city
  4. The Beast
  5. Degree of symbolism
The Identity of the two witnesses:
·         Metzger:  the church
·         Rist:  Elijah and Moses
·         Morris:  the church, possibly the two faithful churches in chapters 2 and 3, or the martyrs of the church
·         Ladd:  2 literal people who will witness in the last days to Israel; they also represent the witness of the church to Israel throughout history
·         Myself:  They seem to be individuals.  Note that the people of God seem to be described in 11:1.  The court and city outside are not to be measured.  Then, God grants prophetic ministry to two people.  The implication is that they will prophesy in this area outside the measured-off area.  Although they are of the people of God, they are unique individuals with unique ministry and power.  Their powers are reminiscent of Moses and Elijah, but there is no claim that they those prophets.  In the same way that John the Baptist fulfilled the role of Elijah to be a forerunner of the Messiah as he was prescribed in Malachi, these witnesses act as forerunners to the return of Christ.
The purpose of the two witnesses:
·         Metzger:  the church is to give faithful witness to the truth
·         Rist:  to be a forerunner to the return of the Messiah (Elijah) and to prophesy to the wicked
·         Morris:  to give Christian witness
·         Ladd:  to bring Israel to repentance and conversion; to “bear witness of the law and the prophets to the Lordship of Jesus as Messiah and therefore to the sin of Israel in rejecting him.”
·         Myself:  We are not told much specific.  They are “witnesses” or those who give testimony.  Jesus describes the apostles as witnesses in Acts 1:8.  They implication is that Christian witnesses testify about Jesus and His gospel.  They also are known to torment the earth-dwellers, so this indicates that they are not shy about speaking about the sins of people and the need to repent.
The city: 
·         Metzger:  Jerusalem, “but the vision is enlarged to include the entire world.”  (70) 
·         Rist:  In verse 8, the city “would certainly be taken to mean Rome” except for the last clause.  He quotes Kiddle, who solves this by Sodom and Egypt being said to “constitute the evil ‘great city’ of this world order, the earthly and temporal in contrast to the heavenly and the eternal.”  This “city” is the place of Jesus’ death, of persecution, and of the death of the two witnesses. (447)
·         Morris:  the city is not Jerusalem, but “is every city and no city.  It is civilized man in organized community.”(150)
·         Ladd:  He believes that the literal city of Jerusalem is being referred to.  He notes that the narrative would not have any meaning in John’s day, since Jerusalem had been destroyed about 20 years before.  Therefore, he believes this indicates that Jerusalem will become important and a center of Beast activity in the last days. It will be “rebuilt and inhabited by Jews.” ((157) In reflecting on the use of “Sodom” and “Egypt” to describe Jerusalem, he asserts that Jerusalem is wicked because it is where Jesus was crucified and it “has thus far rejected the witness of the two prophets sent by God to turn Israel to her Messiah.” (158)
·         Myself:  The city seems to be Jerusalem.  However, it definitely is Jerusalem in league with the world.  It is what is outside that measured-off area where the people of God are.  It has been trampled by the Gentiles—probably both physically and spiritually.  It will join the rest of the world in leaving the bodies of the witnesses exposed and in rejoicing over their death.
The Beast:
·         Metzger:  The “demonic monster” from the bottomless pit is the one described in chapters 13 and 17.
·         Rist:  “This beast is the first of four of his kind in Revelation:  the others are…Satan (12:3); the beast…(13:1); and the beast with two horns…(13:11).  These beasts are different, and yet they are all incarnations…of Satan, and all are determined enemies of God, Christ, and the Christians.  Further, those in ch. 13 are identified with the deified emperors, and with the dead Nero, who will come back to life to slay the faithful.  The beast in this chapter partakes of the character of these and for convenience may be termed the Antichrist.”  (446)
·         Morris:  He considers “the beast” to be the same as the beast that “is prominent throughout the second part of this book.”
·         Ladd:  He refers to the beasts of Daniel 7 and to the Abomination of Desolation of Matthew 24:15.  He also refers to the description in II Thessalonians 2. (155-156) He sums up and describes the beast:  “He is primarily an eschatological figure in whom will be concentrated the centuries-long hostility to God manifested in the history of godless nations; but this hostility is also foreshadowed in Rome and its emperor as it was in Antiochus Epiphanes.” (156) The beast in chapter 11, he says, represents all the powers that persecute God’s people, but especially the Beast of the last days. (156)
·         Myself:  It seems certain that this is a mention of the Beast/Antichrist of chapter 13 and following.  It anticipates the fuller explanations that will follow.
Degree of symbolism:
·         Metzger:  Summary:  “What John is concerned to bring out…is that the church, whose lot is to suffer persecution..., will nevertheless continue to give faithful witness to the truth.”  The safety of the Temple symbolizes the security of the church’s “true life.”  (70) The death and resurrection of the witnesses are not “historical events” but symbolize the resurrection of the church, which seems at times defeated but will live.  (70-71)
·         Rist: 
o   Identity of witnesses:  literal—Elijah and Moses
o   Purpose:  forerunner(s) and witness to truth
o   Beast:  Emperors, esp. Nero revived
o   City:  this world order
o   Message:  martyrs ultimately triumph
·         Morris:
o   Identity:  symbolize the church
o   Purpose:  Christian witness
o   City:  civilized man in organized community
o   Beast:  somewhat a combination of symbolism and a real antichrist
o   Message:  He takes their resurrection as purely symbolical:  “History has often seen the church oppressed to the very verge of extinction, but it has always seen it rise again…”  but also believes their resurrection and ascension is the rapture of I Thessalonians 4
·         Ladd
o   Identity:  not symbolic, real people
o   Purpose:  witness to Israel
o   City:  literally Jerusalem
o   Beast:  foreshadowed in Rome, but a real eschatological person
o   Message:  “The conversion of Israel is to be accomplished by a miracle of resurrection.”  He states that this reminds one of the revival of Israel described in Ezekiel 37:10 (when the dry bones are resurrected). (158) He rejects those suggestions that this narrative is symbolic of the perseverance of the church under persecution or that it describes the rapture of the church. (158-159)

·         Myself:  There is constantly a spiritual message in Revelation that does not detract from a non-symbolic interpretation.  The witnesses certainly represent all who are martyred for their testimony.  The city of Jerusalem as spiritual Sodom and Egypt represents the anti-Christ civilization of all people. The beast is a symbol of all of Satan’s henchmen, especially those who gain great power and who persecute the people of God.  The message of the ultimate victory of all Christian martyrs and of all Christians should not be ignored.  These symbolic or spiritual interpretations do not undercut the literal anticipation of last-day events.
VERSE-BY-VERSE
                11:3.  Their commission:  The unnamed voice of 11:1b-2 continues:  “I will…”  This seems to be God speaking.  The Greek does not have “power” (NIV) or “authority” (ESV).  It just says “I will give.”  Dictionary says “appoint” is a possibility for didomi.  God is granting the full responsibility and powers of the office of prophet to these two.  They are described as prophesying while they are dressed in sackcloth.  Sackcloth is a sign of mourning. (Rist, 444) We should keep in mind that they are in mourning.  This is important as we consider their powers.  The 1260-day duration of their prophetic activity corresponds to 3 ½ years (with 12 30-day months). (Rist, 444-445)
                11:4. Their identity as “olive trees”:  First they are referred to as “two olive trees” and “two lamp stands.”  These both are probably references to Zechariah 4.  Zechariah saw a vision of a lamp stand with two olive trees that poured oil into the lamp stand.  The vision was interpreted, first, to mean that “’not by might nor by power, but by my Spirit,’ says the Lord of hosts.”  (Zechariah 4:6) Second, the olive trees are said to be “the two anointed ones who stand by the Lord of the whole earth.” (Zechariah 4:14)  The wording in Revelation 11:4 is almost exactly the same.  The literal translation of “anointed ones” in Zechariah 4:14 is “sons of the new oil.” (ESVSB) That is:  the trees are the sources of the oil that flows freely into the lamp stand.
The following table sorts out the two interpretations:

Verse
Summary
Interpretation given
Location of interpretation
(verse)
2
Vision of two trees and lamp stand with bowl and channels to the lights
This is the word to Zerubbabel:  Not by might nor by power but by might Spirit…
6
14

The two trees are the anointed who stand by the Lord of the whole earth
14

Thus, the total picture we get is that God will work in the rebuilding of the Temple through the ministry of the Holy Spirit.  Some interpret the two olive trees as Zerubbabel and Jeshua—the governor and the High Priest. (NIVSB) Others interpret them as Haggai and Zechariah. (ESVSB) The latter seems more logical, because they are the prophetic conduit.  They announce the word of the Lord to those who have the responsibility, i.e., Zerubbabel and Jeshua.         
                Now, in Revelation 11, two last-day olive trees and lamp stands are predicted.  They will be a prophetic conduit announcing the word of the Lord.  The word creates light, just as a lamp stand does.  The fuel for the lamps is oil, which comes from the olive trees.  (See also Morris, 148.) They are God’s anointed ones, or sons of the new oil.  They stand before the Lord of the whole earth.  Prophets—in fact all people of God—stand before the Lord.  They live out their lives with a consciousness that they do so before God.  Those who live carelessly, who have not spiritual sensitivity—they live out their lives oblivious to what God thinks or is doing.  Rist takes a negative view of the allusion:  “John…completely discards the meaning of the symbols for Zechariah.  For him the…lampstands and…olive trees are the two witnesses…” (445)  I do not see the reference in a negative way.  I understand that John is using the reference to Zechariah’s vision to enhance the reader’s understanding of the two witnesses.
                Morris draws detailed conclusions from the symbolism that is used.  He notes that lampstands were the symbols of the churches in Revelation 1:12-20.  From this reference, he concludes that these witnesses represent the church.  The fact that there are two witnesses rather than seven, which is the number of churches in Revelation 1-3, plus the fact that the witnesses are eventually killed (11:7), leads him to believe that these witnesses represent all the martyrs of the church. (Morris, 148)  I disagree with this analysis.  First, the reference is obviously to Zechariah 4.  In that context, the olive trees are individuals, and that fact cannot be ignored.  The use of lampstands is also a reference to Zechariah 4, although only one lampstand is mentioned in Zechariah.  Thus, the lampstands point to the same persons as the olive trees.  The use of lampstands to symbolize churches in Revelation 1 does not seem to apply here.  The statement is made that these are unique individuals who stand before the Lord (11:4).  Again, this is language very similar to Zechariah 4:14:  “Then he said, ‘These are the two anointed ones who stand by the Lord of the whole earth.’”  This latter verse seems to apply to individuals, and so Revelation 11:4 also seems to apply to individuals.
                Ladd’s analysis of the identities of the witnesses flows from his theory that verses 11:1-2 are evidence that the passage is focused on the nation of Israel.  Thus, the role of the witnesses is to proclaim the message of Jesus to Israel and to bring about her conversion.  He considers these witnesses to be symbolic of the church’s witness to Israel throughout history, but he also considers them to be two specific men who will prophesy in the last days. (Ladd, 154) The references to Zechariah 4 affirm the “divine authorization of the two witnesses and the source of their prophetic utterances.”  By the “source” he means the two-fold source of the Law and the Prophets. (Ladd, 154-155)  I disagree with the role that Ladd assigns to the witnesses.  He is imposing a viewpoint on the entire passage (11:1-14) that does not seem warranted.  Although the chapter begins by focusing on Jerusalem, eventually the whole world is involved.  This we can infer from two facts.  First, the Beast—who is a world dictator—becomes the archenemy of the witnesses (verse 11:7).  Second, people from many nations are involved in the decision not to bury them (verse 11:9), and they—the earth-dwellers—celebrate because the witnesses are dead (verse 11:10).  Thus, the prophetic ministry of the witnesses is not specified as being directed toward Israel, but the implication is that it is directed toward all peoples.
                11:5-6. Their powers:     These prophets have remarkable power:
  • Fire can come out of their mouths and consume their enemies.
  • They can prevent it from raining.
  • They can turn water into blood.
  • They can bring about any plague to harm the people of the earth.
Although the fire reminds many people of Elijah, it really is a somewhat different type of power.  Elijah called fire down from heaven, whereas these prophets can spew fire out of their mouth. (See Ladd’s interpretation below.)  Elijah did prevent it from raining for a period of years.  Moses brought about a plague in which water was turned to blood.  Moses also brought about nine other plagues.  Thus, these two remind many of Elijah and Moses, and some have speculated that they are those exact persons.  Jesus and the disciples discussed the idea that Elijah would come before the Kingdom came.  (Mark 9:11ff, Matthew 11:14 and 17:11-13) The origin of the discussion of Elijah is in Malachi.  In Malachi 3:1 a messenger is promised who will go before the Lord.  In Malachi 4:5-6 the coming of the Day of the Lord will be preceded by the coming of Elijah.  John the Baptist fulfilled the promise of this messenger by his ministry.  He denied he was Elijah (John 1:21), yet Jesus said he was Elijah.  Most likely, John denied that he was literally Elijah who had come back to life.  Jesus confirmed the prophecy of the angel who spoke to John’s father Zechariah (Luke 1:17):  “And he [the son who was being promised to Zechariah and Elizabeth] will go before him in the spirit and power of Elijah, to turn the hearts of the fathers to the children, and the disobedient to the wisdom of the just, to make ready for the Lord a people prepared.” 
                The idea that these prophets have an Elijah-like ministry comes from two ideas.  One is that their powers (fire and stopping the rain) are similar to those of Elijah.  The other is that Elijah is connected to the Day of the Lord (Malachi 4:5-6).  Pentecost discusses this extensively (309-313) and concludes that one or both of the two witnesses will come in the spirit and power of Elijah and not personally.  This seems a reasonable understanding.
                Rist gives the background that both Jews and Christians believed that three Old Testament persons were residents of heaven—Enoch, Moses, and Elijah.  Malachi had prophesied concerning Elijah (4:4-6 and 3:1) that he would return before the Day of the Lord and that he would be the forerunner of the Messiah. (Rist, 445) Moreover, the “clues” from the witnesses’ powers lead many to believe they will be “Elijah and Moses returned to the earth.”  (Rist, 445)
                Morris ignores the allusions to the powers of Elijah and Moses.  He believes that the fire from the mouths of the witnesses is figurative.  “The word of the faithful witness is a consuming fire.” (148-149) On the other hand, he takes the other powers more literally, though in a roundabout way:  “…the faithful performance of the church’s duty is itself one of the ways in which the judgments of God are set in motion against an evil world…” (149)
                Ladd refers to Elijah’s calling down fire but believes that the reference is “more clearly to Jeremiah,” whose words were “a fire devouring a rebellious people (Jer. 5:14).  Thus, he interprets the fire as figurative:  they destroy their enemies “by the words they utter.” (Ladd, 155) The description of their powers suggests to him that they are Elijah and Moses.  They are not the prophets returning to earth, but they will be the “embodiment” of them. (Ladd, 155)
                Metzger writes that the powers of the witnesses “brings to mind Elijah (2 Kings 1:10) and Moses (Exod. 7:17, 19).” (Metzger, 70)
                11:7. Their death:  I believe that English translations cannot fully convey the meaning of the dependent temporal clause (“And when they have finished their testimony…”).  The verb is in the subjunctive, which is “the mood of moderate contingency.”  It expresses what is “objectively possible.”  “It is the mood of probability.”  The introductory temporal adverb is hotan, which means “whenever.”  (All quotations are from Brooks and Winbery, 122.)  In this case the clause is not expressing doubt, but
contingency.  A paraphrase of the clause might be:  “Once they have completed their testimony…” So, the Beast/Antichrist will not be able to kill them until they have finished their testimony.  The “Beast” is identified immediately:  he is the one who is coming up out of the Abyss.  The Abyss, or “Bottomless Pit,” was introduced in Revelation 9.  In that chapter, demonic locusts who are led by the “angel of the Abyss” came up out of the pit to torment people.  The Beast will be described in chapters 13 and 17.  Those descriptions, together with the material in II Thessalonians 2, create a picture of the person that most of us refer to as the Antichrist (from I John 2:18).  He is referred to as the “Beast” in Revelation (actually the word—therion—can be translated as “animal”).  Incidentally, no commentator seems to identify the Beast with Apollyon, the “angel of the Abyss,” who is the leader of the demonic locusts that come from the Abyss.  In verse 11:7, the brief mention of the Beast is an anticipation of the fuller descriptions in Revelation 13 and 17.  This kind of anticipation is found elsewhere in the book.  See, for example, the promises to the conquerors in chapters 2 and 3.     
                There are three stages that lead to the death of the witness:  the Beast makes war on them, he defeats them, and he kills them.  Notice that they have the ability to spew fire out of their mouths and burn up anyone who attacks them (11:5).  However, they have completed their testimony, so now they no longer use this defense.  This may be because they no longer have that power, they no longer are allowed to use it, or they choose not to use it.  As a consequence they are defeated—perhaps this means that they are overpowered.  Without much detail, we are told that they are killed.  One assumes that all of this is done by the Beast’s agents and not him personally. 
                Rist notes that the word for “martyr” and for “witness” is the same in Greek.  The witnesses become martyrs, for “a demonic beast” will kill them.  Rist’s understanding is that there are four different beasts in Revelation, including the beast of 11:7:  ”the others are…Satan (12:3); the beast…(13:1); and the beast with two horns…(13:11).  These beasts are different, and yet they are all incarnations…of Satan, and all are determined enemies of God, Christ, and the Christians.  Further, those in ch. 13 are identified with the deified emperors, and with the dead Nero, who will come back to life to slay the faithful.  The beast in this chapter partakes of the character of these and for convenience may be termed the Antichrist.”  (Rist, 446)
                Morris considers “the beast” to be the same as the beast that “is prominent throughout the second part of this book.”  He concludes that the witnesses are a “mighty host” on the basis that the beast makes war with them.  He comments on the victory of the beast:  “When Christ’s martyrs have completed their task they are removed from the scene.  The words have relevance to every persecution the church has suffered.”  He quotes W. Hendricksen, who applies the idea to the church in Russia.  This, of course, is a very dated commentary (I do not have an original copyright date—the reprint date is 1980), and Hendricksen wrote in 1962 (He was referring to the Soviet Union.). (Morris, 149-150)
                Ladd discusses the beast, which he says was familiar to Jewish-Christian thought.  He refers to the beasts of Daniel 7 and to the Abomination of Desolation of Matthew 24:15.  He also refers to the description in II Thessalonians 2. (Ladd, 155-156) He sums up and describes the beast:  “He is primarily an eschatological figure in whom will be concentrated the centuries-long hostility to God manifested in the history of godless nations; but this hostility is also foreshadowed in Rome and its emperor as it was in Antiochus Epiphanes.” (Ladd, 156) The beast in chapter 11, he says, represents all the powers that persecute God’s people, but especially the Beast of the last days. (156) Ladd says that one should not make too much of the mention of “war.”  It is “simply conquest by whatever means, not necessarily military weapons.” (Note above that Morris interprets “war” to mean that the witnesses represent a host.) (Ladd, 157)
                It seems clear that the Beast of 11:7 is the same as the first Beast that is described in chapter 13 as well as chapter 17.  This is the Beast/Antichrist, a prominent figure in Revelation.  The prophetic ministry of the two witnesses opposes the program of the Beast/Antichrist, so he kills the two witnesses.  These events should be interpreted, I believe, with a futurist understanding:  these are last-day events.  At the same time, as the other interpreters have remarked, these witnesses are part of the great tradition of martyrdom among the people of God.  Jesus declared a blessing on those who are persecuted for doing the right thing and for being associated with His name (Matthew 5:10-11).
                11:8. Their bodies are exposed:  To add to their defeat and death, the witnesses are disgraced by not being buried, but having their bodies lie in the streets of Jerusalem.  This was great indignity for the ancient people of the Middle East.  I am not sure what is involved, but one can assume what anyone of any day would feel.  A dead body is a defeated body.  It has been overcome either by violence or natural disease processes.  Such a body cannot create any dignity for itself:  it cannot stand erect or sit with head held high.  It cannot move itself nor clothe itself nor speak for itself.  It is at the utter mercy of those who have possession of it.  In this case the witnesses’ enemies are in charge, and they have decided there will be no burial. 
                The bodies lie in the city that has the spiritual characterization of Sodom and Egypt.  Sodom was known as a center of homosexual perversion and known as the place that sought to rape visitors (Genesis 19:1-11).  Egypt was the oppressor of God’s people before the Exodus (Exodus 1:8-22).  The city is further characterized as the place where the witnesses’ Lord was crucified.  This, of course, makes certain that the identity of the city is Jerusalem.  The implication is that, since their bodies end up in Jerusalem, they were killed in Jerusalem.  The facts that the city was the site of the crucifixion of Jesus and will be the site of the execution of the two witnesses are evidence of the spiritual character of that city and the people it represents.  To those facts probably was added the persecution of Christians in the first century.  Note also that the city appears to be in league with the Beast/Antichrist.  Thus, the capital of the people of God, the location of Mount Zion, the Temple, the city of David, the place where pilgrims gathered over the centuries to demonstrate their loyalty to God—this great city is now described as anti-God and anti-Christ.  Yet, one must keep in mind that it also is called, in verse 11:2, the “Holy City.”  It was beloved by Jesus, who wanted to gather its people as a hen gathers her chicks (Matthew 23:37).  And it will someday give its name to the great city of God, the New Jerusalem.
                Metzger believes the martyrdom of the two witnesses “is likened to that of Christ in Jerusalem.” (Metzger, 70)  He interprets the comparison of Jerusalem to Sodom and Egypt as reference to “moral degradation” (Genesis 19:4-11) and “oppression and slavery.”  (Metzger, 70)  “To deny proper burial was considered a great disgrace and insult to the dead.” (Metzger, 70)
                Rist comments that the city that is described in verse 11:8 “would certainly be taken to mean Rome” except for the last clause.  He refers to Kiddle who believes that the “great city” is not a specific place, but rather a symbol of “the evil ‘great city’ of this world order, the earthly and temporal in contrast to the heavenly and the eternal.”  This “city” is the place of Jesus’ death, of persecution, and of the death of the two witnesses. (Rist, 447) 
                Morris agrees with Rist’s analysis.  Egypt and Sodom stand for “wickedness and oppression.” (Morris, 150) He argues that the city is not Jerusalem, but “is every city and no city.  It is civilized man in organized community.” (This also is his understanding of Babylon.  See Morris, 202-203.) (Morris, 150)
                Ladd, however, interprets the verse more literally.  He believes that the literal city of Jerusalem is being referred to.  He notes that the narrative would not have any meaning in John’s day, since Jerusalem had been destroyed about 20 years before. (This assumes Revelation was written in the 90’s.) Therefore, he believes this indicates that Jerusalem will become important and a center of Beast activity in the last days. It will be “rebuilt and inhabited by Jews.” (Ladd, 157) In reflecting on the use of “Sodom” and “Egypt” to describe Jerusalem, he asserts that Jerusalem is wicked because it is where Jesus was crucified and it “has thus far rejected the witness of the two prophets sent by God to turn Israel to her Messiah.” (Ladd, 158)
                I believe that the explicit designation of the city as where Christ was crucified cannot be spiritualized; Jerusalem is being designated.  At the same time, the characterization of the city—not as the “holy city” but as a city that is spiritually akin to Sodom and Egypt—links Jerusalem to what is going on throughout the world.  It is certainly a part of Babylon (chapters 17 and 18) and of the same nature of Rome.  Jesus characterized Jerusalem of His day in a similar way:  “your house is left to you desolate.”  (Matthew 23:38)
                11:9. The nations gaze on their bodies:  As the bodies of the witnesses lie in the main street of Jerusalem, people from many nations and ethnic groups are able to see them.  They make the decision not to bury the corpses.
                Metzger considers that the mention of nations and ethnic groups means that the vision is “enlarged” from Jerusalem to the entire world.  Morris believes the mention of the nations and ethnic groups is evidence for his belief that a certain city was not in mind, but all of sinful humanity (see above).  (Morris, 150) Ladd infers from the mention of people from all over the world that the Jews are in alliance with the Gentile nations that surround them.  He comments that 3 ½ days or years is symbolic of a time of trouble and is not to be taken with strict literalness. (Ladd, 158)
                I think that this verse is key to understanding the role of the witnesses and how they fit into the narrative of Revelation.  People from peoples, tribes, languages, and nations look on the corpses of the witnesses.  These same people make the decision not to allow them to be buried.  I think this is good evidence that the prophetic role of these witnesses is to all peoples rather than to Israel.  No doubt their ministry will have an effect on Israel, but their role is to call all to repentance.    
                11:10. The earth-dwellers gloat:  The people take the death of the two witnesses as an occasion to celebrate.  It is Christmas in July, so to speak.  They party, send gifts, and have a good time.  They are utterly relieved that these witnesses are dead.  The two witnesses had tormented them.  This word is used in cases of “torture,” extreme pain, and torment—such as a woman in childbirth or demons suffering in hell.  We can infer that the suffering that the witnesses inflicted came in two ways.  First, their powers—to burn people up, to bring about drought, and to inflict plagues—would certainly cause torment.  Second, they were “prophets” and “witnesses” who spoke the word of God to the people.  No doubt this brought about feelings of guilt and defensiveness that tortured them.
                The people who were tormented were the “earth dwellers.”  This expression (it can also be translated:  “those who dwell on the earth”) is found in Revelation 3:10, 6:10, 8:13, 13:8, 13:12, 13:14, 17:2, and 17:8.  It is more than a description of where these people lived.  It is a characterization of their spiritual condition.  For example the earth-dwellers worship the Beast/Antichrist (13:8, 12).  They are deceived by the False Prophet (13:14).  They are intoxicated with the wine of the adulteries of Babylon (17:2).  They are astonished at the Beast/Antichrist (17:8).  Very likely the following characterization—which Paul wrote to describe the people who will be deceived by the Man of Lawlessness—applies to the earth-dwellers:
The coming of the lawless one is by the activity of Satan with all power and false signs and wonders, and with all wicked deception for those who are perishing, because they refused to love the truth and so be saved. Therefore God sends them a strong delusion, so that they may believe what is false, in order that all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.  (II Thessalonians 2:9-12)

                Metzger considers that the torment that the people suffered was the vexing of their consciences when the prophets called people to repentance. (Metzger, 70) Rist agrees with this analysis. (Rist, 448-449)  Ladd (along with other commentators) remarks that “those who dwell on the earth” is an “idiom” for the pagan world.  He infers that the witnesses not only call Jews to repentance but also rebuke the Gentiles and this leads to celebration of their death. (158)
                Ladd consistently imposes his view that the major mission of the witnesses is to call Israel to repentance and conversion.  He recognizes that verses 11:9-10 imply that the witnesses’ ministry has had an impact on many other nations besides Israel, but he seems to downplay that role.  It seems to me that there is an almost total absence of support for his thesis about the role of the witnesses.  He bases his thesis solely on the mention of the Temple in verse 11:1.  It strikes me that the information in verse 11:2 should be more “controlling” in understanding the context of the witnesses’ mission.  The “nations” or Gentiles will trample the holy city for 42 months.  That time period is also the time period of the ministry of the two witnesses.  Thus, it seems that the witnesses will be sent to rebuke the trampling Gentiles.  For this reason, they rejoice when the Beast—their hero—kills the witnesses.  In all of this, Israel is hardly in view.
                11:11. The resurrection of the witnesses:  The time frame for the bodies to lie in the street is 3 ½ days.  This was already given in verse 9.  This kind of anticipation is typical for the style of Revelation.  The period is slightly longer than Jesus’ wait for resurrection.  Perhaps, this is to defer to Jesus as the First Fruit of the Resurrection.  The witnesses are resurrected when the “breath of life from God” enters them.  In Genesis 2:7, God formed man from dust and breathed into him the “breath of life.”  The Holy Spirit is called the “the Spirit of him who raised Jesus from the dead” in Romans 8:11.  Keep in mind that the word for “spirit” and “breath” are the same in Greek.  So, it is not incorrect to think of the Holy Spirit as being the agent of the resurrection.  The witnesses demonstrate their resurrection by standing up.  And that really scares people.  A moment before, these people were having a party because their tormentors were dead.  Now, they are standing on their feet.
                Morris notes that in verse 11:11, the tense is past tense, because John believes the events are so certain that he can refer to them as already completed.  He takes their resurrection as purely symbolical:  “History has often seen the church oppressed to the very verge of extinction, but it has always seen it rise again…”  (However, he understands their ascension literally—see below.) (Morris, 151)  Ladd, however, asserts that this description of the resurrection of the witnesses is intended as a literal statement.  He further states:  “The conversion of Israel is to be accomplished by a miracle of resurrection.”  He states that this reminds one of the revival of Israel described in Ezekiel 37:10 (when the dry bones are resurrected). (158) He rejects those suggestions that this narrative is symbolic of the perseverance of the church under persecution or that it describes the rapture of the church. (158-159) 
                In most of the visions that are described in Revelation, one can see possibilities for symbolic interpretations.  Nevertheless, within the context of the book, these visions are understood to be descriptions of future events.  Thus, the witnesses will literally be resurrected.  The issue of whether this is a description of the rapture of the church is not so easily dismissed.  Those holding to the Mid-Tribulation Rapture theory believe that the experience of the witnesses, including their ascension, represents the experience of Christians in the church as it is described in I Thessalonians 4:13-18.  (Pentecost, 186)  They believe the rapture will take place in the middle of the seven-year period that is generally called the Tribulation period.  I believe the entire narrative of the two witnesses consistently depicts two individuals and not the church.  Moreover, I think there is good evidence that a chronology of Revelation would put the events of 11:3-14 close to, but not quite concurrent with the Second Coming of Christ.  I believe that the description of the seventh trumpet is a brief statement of the Second Coming (11:15-19).  Thus, it appears that the two witnesses are killed shortly before the end of the seven-year Tribulation and not in the middle of that period.  I believe that the Rapture will not occur until the Second Coming.  Therefore, the witnesses are killed—and resurrected—shortly before the Second Coming and the Rapture.  This chronology for Revelation is taken largely from Pentecost (Pentecost, 187-188).
                11:12. Their ascension:  A loud voice speaks and tells them to come up to heaven.  There is some ambiguity as well as some textual divide on this sentence.  It could be “they heard” or it could be “I heard.”  The latter would mean that John heard the voice.  This does not track with the narrative, since the focus has been on the scene and not John’s role.  However, such a consideration does not decide the matter, since John jumps in and out of the narrative throughout the book.  If “they heard” is the correct reading, then the question is:  does “they” refer to the spectators or to the witnesses?  That cannot be answered for certain.  None of this is particularly important.  The important thing is that they go to heaven in a cloud.  There is the ironic notation:  their enemies see this happen.  Their death is not permanent, and their defeat is temporary.  The fear of all who see this is, no doubt, intensified.
                Metzger understands the death and resurrection of the witnesses not to be “historical events” but symbolize the resurrection of the church, which seems at times defeated but will live.  (Metzger, 70-71) Rist considers that the resurrection and ascension of the witnesses is a “great triumph.”  Their victory is a “sure pledge” that Christians who suffer and die for their testimony will also triumph. (449) Rist takes the fact that Elijah and Moses (which he considers to be the identity of the witnesses) are not mentioned again as evidence that “John has inserted an apocalyptic tradition which he has not thoroughly integrated and harmonized with what is to follow.  (Rist, 448-449) I do not see why there is any necessity to mention the two witnesses again.  They recede into the background much as John the Baptist did. 
                Morris goes in two directions in interpreting the ascension.  First, he asserts that it will be literally fulfilled “in the rapture Paul describes (I Thess. iv. 17).” But he also asserts that the ascension of the witnesses can be interpreted symbolically:  the honor that eventually is paid to those who are martyred for their testimony—this is a kind of rapture. (Morris, 151)  Ladd notes that the wording of their ascension is almost the same as John’s entrance into heaven in 4:1, but that the events are different.  John “was caught up in spirit, in ecstasy,” but the witnesses will go bodily into heaven. (Ladd, 159) 
                The resurrection and ascension of the two witnesses is a complete victory over their enemies.  First, they are brought back to life, and this action reverses their murder.  Then, they ascend into heaven, just as Jesus did.  Their dead bodies have been left in the street to be mocked and partied over.  But now their living bodies are carried with triumph into heaven.  The consequence is that “great fear fell” on those who witnessed these events.  This is powerful proof of the validity of their ministry and the validity of who they are.  But more than that, it is proof of the reality of the living God. 
                11:13. An earthquake:  The story of the two witnesses ends with an earthquake.  The location of the earthquake is “the city.”  Since the bodies of the two witnesses are in Jerusalem, their resurrection would also be there.  So, we have no reason to believe that the location has changed and assume that the earthquake strikes Jerusalem.  A tenth of the city falls.  I take this to mean that a sector of the city, amounting to one-tenth of its area, is destroyed by the earthquake.  Most translations say that “seven thousand people” or “men” are killed.  However, the Greek has an odd expression:  “seven thousand names of men were killed by the earthquake.”  This probably was just an idiomatic expression, but it does highlight the idea that death has a way of wiping one’s name off of wherever it might be recorded in the lists of the living.  The “rest were terrified…”  The “rest” would be those left in the city.  Although there is a world-wide perspective in this passage, there is also a local perspective.  The Beast/Antichrist is an international figure, and he makes it his business to make war on the witnesses.  When their bodies lie exposed, people from various nations and ethnic groups rejoice over their deaths.  Yet they lie in the street of a specific city, and it is struck by an earthquake.  Those of that specific city now are in awestruck terror.  Their response is to give the glory to God.  The context implies that this praise is a grudging praise (see various commentators below for various opinions).  Very likely it is the testimony of these two that has set the stage for the praise of God.  In other words, they have testified to the true God and his rightful claim on people.  When they are resurrected from the dead and translated to heaven, their testimony is verified and the people of Jerusalem are now willing to give God the glory.
                Metzger notes that, after the earthquake, the survivors are “shocked out of their lethargy…and give glory to the God of heaven…How often the blood of the martyrs becomes the seed of the church! (Tertullian).” (Metzger, 70)
                Rist states that the devastation by the earthquake is “but a token of the total annihilation which is to occur.” He does not explain what he has in mind in this context. (Rist, 449) He does not consider the fact that the survivors gave glory to God is evidence of their repentance. (See other interpretations below.) The apologists of the second and third centuries hoped for a change of attitude among the heathen authorities, but “John was convinced that no such transformation would occur; consequently Rome must and will be destroyed.” (Rist, 449)  He considers that John wrote the “little book” (10:2, 8-11) and that its contents are probably the narrative of the two witnesses (11:1-13).  (Rist, 449)
                Morris points out that the report of the devastation of the earthquake is, for him, not consistent with the rest of the book, for two reasons.  First, the proportion of the city destroyed is one-tenth, rather than the usual one-fourth or one-third.  Second, the number of deaths is given as a number rather than a fraction (7,000).  He refers to Martin Kiddle, who believes that 7,000 represents one-tenth of 70,000, which is a perfect number (7 X 10 to the fourth) and represents the whole human race. (Morris, 151-152) He takes the giving of glory to God at face value:  “even sinful men could not forbear from ascribing glory to Him.” But he does not equate this with conversion.  (Morris, 152)
                Ladd notes that an earthquake is one of the “convulsive events that presage the end.” (Ladd, 159) The 7,000 deaths is a “limited catastrophe.”  He estimates the city to have a population of about 100,000, and thus about 10% are killed.  (I do not know where he comes up with the 100,000.) He asserts that the “rest” refers to the rest of the Jews of Jerusalem.  He infers that their giving glory to God is a “symbolic way of describing the final conversion of the Jewish people as a whole.”  He rejects that the “rest” could refer to the Gentiles, who are always depicted as unrepentant in Revelation.  He says that the giving glory to God “suggest repentance, not merely remorse.” (159) He rejects the suggestion that they gave glory out of fear and terror but did not repent.  He cites the following uses of the phrase (“give glory to God”):
  • Joshua 7:19 Achan is told to give glory to God and confess his sin.
  • Isaiah 42:12 In the first “servant song”:  nations are called to give glory to God
  • Jeremiah 13:16 a call to repent under threat of captivity
  • I Peter 2:12 a call to live lives that will cause “Gentiles” to give glory to God—implying their repentance
  • Revelation 14:7 The angel with the eternal gospel calls people to fear God and give him the glory
  • Revelation 15:4 In a praise to God the question is asked:  who will not fear and give God the glory and worship Him
  • Revelation 16:9  People did not “repent and give Him glory”
  • Revelation 19:7 a multitude rejoices as the marriage of the Lamb comes and calls all to rejoice and give God the glory
  • Revelation 21:24 kings will come to the city and bring their glory into it
I have highlighted those references that are doubtful in support (one might say borderline support) of the thesis.
                I think that one cannot draw strong conclusions from the brief statement that after the earthquake people give God the glory.  It could imply conversion, but it could be a grudging acknowledgment of God’s power.  I think that the giving of glory to God does not represent a wholesale conversion of Israel.  First of all, though the location is probably Jerusalem, the people who are described as giving glory to God are not necessarily limited to Hebrew people, since many ethnic groups are involved in these events, as verses 11:9-10 indicate.  Second, the conversion of “all Israel” is predicted in Romans 11:26, Zechariah 12:10-13:1, and Jeremiah 31:33.  This conversion seems to be very close to or simultaneous with the Second Coming (Zechariah 12:10).  These events—the death, resurrection, and ascension of the two witnesses and the earthquake that follows—do not seem to correspond to the Second Coming.  It may be that the career and ultimate victory of the two witnesses will have a powerful effect on the Hebrew people who observe those events and play an important role in Israel’s ultimate conversion.
                Metzger’s summary of the narrative of the two witnesses:  “What John is concerned to bring out…is that the church, whose lot is to suffer persecution..., will nevertheless continue to give faithful witness to the truth.”  The safety of the Temple symbolizes the security of the church’s “true life.”  (70) The death and resurrection of the witnesses are not “historical events” but symbolize the resurrection of the church, which seems at times defeated but will live.  (Metzger, 70-71)  Metzger’s assessment comes from a presupposition that Revelation is not predicting literal events, but is using the “apocalyptic” to give a message to the first century church.  Certainly, we should recognize the “spiritual” or symbolic message of this narrative.  God is more powerful than our enemies.  Our faithful witness in the face of opposition will be honored by God.  There is a final victory for the Christian.  However, the book is not written as a parable, metaphor, or other literary device.  It proclaims that the events that it describes will “soon take place.”  (1:1 and 22:6)  So, I believe that one should interpret this book from a futurist perspective with due regard for the spiritual messages that it gives us.
                11:4. Enumeration of the woes:  One more piece of information completes the narrative:  This completes the second woe, and the third woe is coming.  In 8:13, an angel announces that the final three of the trumpets are “woes.”  The events of the fifth trumpet are described in 9:1-12.  Those events constitute the first woe.  Rist believes that the earthquake is the second woe of 8:13 and that the third woe will be described in 11:19.  The commentaries do not further elaborate on verse 11:14.
                Contrary to Rist, I believe all of the events following the sixth trumpet make up the second woe. The sixth trumpet sounds in 9:13.  The events associated with that trumpet are given, for the most part, in 9:13-21.  The narrative of 10:1 through 11:13 is generally classified by an “interlude.”  However, the announcement of 10:14 brings us back to the framework of the “woes” and seems to include in the second woe all that has been described after the blowing of the sixth trumpet.  That is not of great consequence.  One can think of the events of 9:13-21 as the major events of the sixth trumpet—and the second woe.  The narrative of 10:1-11:13 functions as an interlude but, structurally, is also part of the second woe.  This brings us “up to date” and prepares us for the seventh trumpet and the third woe.
                CONCLUSION:  The narrative of the two witnesses follows the command to measure the Temple and its worshipers and the information that Jerusalem would be trampled by the Gentiles (or “nations”) for 3 ½ years.  These witnesses have a powerful prophetic ministry to all peoples that pricks their consciences so that they hate the witnesses.  Finally, after they have completed their ministry, they are killed by the Beast/Antichrist in Jerusalem and their bodies are allowed to lie exposed in the street.  The earth-dwellers, who are determined enemies of Christ and the people of God, rejoice over the sight of their dead bodies, because the prophetic ministry of the witnesses has tormented them.  Suddenly, God’s Spirit revives them and they stand to their feet and then are translated to heaven in a cloud.  This greatly frightens those who see it happen.  Then, an earthquake kills 7,000 people in Jerusalem.  In their fear, the survivors give glory to God.  This may be a grudging admission of God’s power, or it may be an expression of genuine repentance and conversion.  It does not appear to be wholesale conversion of the nation of Israel that is predicted in Romans 11:26.  This narrative completes the second of the three woes that are predicted in 8:13.  We are now prepared for the seventh trumpet and the third woe.
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Morris, Leon.  The Revelation of St. John.  Tyndale New Testament Commentaries. Vol. 20. 
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Saturday, December 13, 2014

A SURVEY OF REVELATION 11, PART B

THE COMMAND TO MEASURE THE TEMPLE (11:1-2)
                John was commanded to measure the Temple, the altar, and the worshipers at the Temple.  The Temple consisted of the Temple proper, the court of the priests (which contained the altar), the court of the men, the court of the women, and the court of the Gentiles. (Ladd, 151)  This outer court was not to be measured.  It “is given over to the nations [Gentiles].”  The “nations” or “Gentiles” would trample the Holy City for 42 months.
                These two verses raise a number of issues.  First, is the Temple that is being measured a literal Hebrew temple?  If that is so, then was Revelation written before the destruction of Jerusalem and the Temple in AD 70?  Second, what is the significance of the trampling by the Gentiles?  Finally, what is the significance of the period of 42 months? 
 I shall attempt to interpret these first two verses by
·         Considering an outline of Revelation  
·         Discussing the context of chapter 11
·         Observing the role of the people of God in Revelation
·         Considering various interpretations of verses 11:1-2
·         Discussing the Preterist views of J. S. Russell
·         Discussing the Greek words for “Temple”
·         Considering the meaning of “altar”
·         Discussing the role of “city” in the book of Revelation
·         Considering the use of “nations”
·         Considering the significance of the 42 months
SCRIPTURES AND ABBREVIATIONS:
                ESV:  English Standard Version
                KJV:  King James Version
                NIV:  New International Version
                ESVSB:  ESV Study Bible
                NIVSB:  NIV Study Bible
                Scripture quotations are from ESV unless otherwise indicated.  
OUTLINE OF REVELATION
                I shall begin this article by presenting a tentative outline of Revelation.  This outline is based partly on Pentecost’s suggestion that we should understand Revelation to present the Tribulation period (seven years) twice.  The first presentation describes the Seals as the first half and the Trumpets as the second half.  Then, beginning in chapter 12, the Tribulation is described by focusing on certain characters or entities (such as the Beast and Babylon).  (See Pentecost, 187-188.)  I do not agree entirely with his analysis, since I believe that at least part of the Seals include developments throughout the church age.  However, I do think that his suggestion in general is helpful.  The following is my outline (chapters are in parentheses):
  1. Introduction (1)
  2. Letters to seven Christian churches (2-3): THE PEOPLE OF GOD IN THE PRESENT
  3. The beginning of the heavenly vision (4-5):  UNSEEN HEAVENLY ACTIVITY
  4. The completion of the mystery of God through the seven seals and seven trumpets:  EVENTS ON EARTH INITIATED IN HEAVEN
    1. The seven seals
                                                               i.      Seals 1-6 (6)
                                                             ii.      Descriptions of principles that characterize the period of the seals (7):  THE PEOPLE OF GOD IN THE TRIBULATION
1.       The 144,000 are sealed
2.       The vast multitude of Christians during the period
                                                            iii.      Seal 7, which includes the following (8:1-5)
    1. The seventh seal:  the seven trumpets that lead to the end
                                                               i.      Trumpets 1-6 (8:6-9:21)
                                                             ii.      Description of principles holding during the trumpets (10-11:14)
1.       The seven thunders (10:1-4)
2.       The anticipation of the fulfillment of the MYSTERY OF GOD (10:5-11)
3.       The measured temple:  PEOPLE OF GOD IN THE TRIBULATION AS WORSHIPERS (11:1-2)
4.       The two witnesses: PEOPLE OF GOD IN THE TRIBULATION AS WITNESSES (11:3-14)
                                                          iii.      The seventh trumpet:  THE COMPLETION OF THE MYSTERY OF GOD AND THE BEGINNING OF THE REIGN OF GOD (11:15-19)
  1. A description of events from another viewpoint
    1. The attack of Satan, Christ’s archenemy, on the offspring of the woman
                                                               i.      The archenemy, Satan (12)
                                                             ii.      Satan’s chief representative, the Beast (13)
                                                            iii.      Interlude of various descriptions and warnings (14)
    1. The seven last plagues (God’s response):  including the Battle of Armageddon and the Fall of Babylon (15-19)
                                                               i.      Justification for the plagues (15)
                                                             ii.      Plagues 1-5 (16:1-11)
                                                            iii.      Plague 6:  preparation for the Battle of Armageddon (16:12-16)
                                                           iv.      Plague 7:  THE COMPLETION OF THE MYSTERY OF GOD
1.       The seventh bowl is poured out (16:17-21)
2.       Description of Babylon (flashback) (17)
3.       The fall of Babylon (18-19:10)
4.       The Battle of Armageddon (19:11-21)
  1. The preparation for eternity (20)
  2. The New Jerusalem of eternity (21-22:6):  THE PEOPLE OF GOD IN ETERNITY
  3. Final words
CONTEXT OF CHAPTER 11
                Note that I have put the material of chapter 11 in bold face as it relates to its context within the book.  That context is as follows:
·         We continue with an interlude that is between the sixth and seventh trumpet. 
·         The events of the trumpets are probably during the Tribulation.  So the interlude is describing principles especially pertinent to the Tribulation period.  (The Tribulation period is the 70th Week of Daniel—the last seven years before the Second Coming.)
·         I shall defend and develop below my idea that the measurement of the Temple and its worshipers is a reference to the people of God during the period.
·         The fact that the Beast is mentioned in chapter 11 is revealing.  It is characteristic of Revelation to have flash backs and flash forwards.  But it also significant that the time frame of the two witnesses is when the Beast is reigning.
·         The seventh trumpet describes itself as heralding the beginning of the reign of God on earth.  This can be understood as anticipatory, or it can simply be understood as the completion of the mystery of God (anticipated in 10:7). 
·         This means that chapter 12 takes a step back and begins to look at all that has been quickly run through (in the seven seals and seven trumpets) from another viewpoint.  We return to the completion of the mystery of God with the return of Christ in chapter 19. 
THE PEOPLE OF GOD IN REVELATION     
                It is my contention that the measurement of the Temple of God in 11:1-2 is symbolic of God’s preservation of the people of God during the Tribulation period.  As part of my reasoning, I need to note the importance of the people of God as a theme in Revelation.
                Throughout the outline, I have noted descriptions of the people of God.  For the moment, I shall use that term without making decisions about whether these people are in the church or in Israel or Tribulation saints or whatever.  Note that the book begins with seven letters to seven churches, the people of God when John was writing the Book of Revelation.  The scene then shifts to heaven and the throne of God.  In a sense, this is God’s response to the people of God.  God is on the throne.  The Lamb is worthy to open the scroll of God’s future.  The seals are broken and the future unfolds.  After six seals, as the wrath of God becomes very heavy, the focus shifts again to the people of God—the 144.000 and the vast multitude.  After the six trumpets, again we glimpse the people of God—worshiping in the Temple.  Two representatives of the people of God (whether symbolic of a group or two individuals) also are spotlighted.  They become martyrs because of the cruelty of the Beast.  In the following section (chapters 12-19) as well as in the “preparation for eternity” there are also references to the people of God, which I shall not detail at this time.  Finally, in chapters 21-22, in the glorious eternal future, we see the people of God enjoying the presence of God forever. 
                It seems to me that the book opens (after its introductory chapter) with Jesus in “dialogue” with the church, the people of God.  The book ends with the people of God in fellowship with God and the Lamb on a new earth and in the New Jerusalem.  The description of that city includes references both to the apostles of the church and the twelve tribes of Israel.  The people of God are unified and with God.  This does not appear to me to be a book about Israel.  It is a book about the people of God. 
                This analysis does not establish my thesis that the Temple in 11:1-2 is a picture of the people of God.  It does, however, give the background of the importance of the people of God in Revelation.
THE PRESERVATION OF THE “TEMPLE” IN 11:1-2:  VARIOUS INTERPRETATIONS
                The command to John to measure the Temple seems to be a prediction of protection of the Temple, although interpreters give various meanings.  The court outside and the Holy City are going to be trampled, but the measured area seems to be protected from that trampling.

                Ladd has summarized four interpretations of these verses (Ladd, 149-151):
1.       They are a prediction that the Temple will be preserved even when the Romans destroy the city.  Ladd is adamant that Revelation was written in the 90’s and so assumes that this would be a “prophecy” from before AD 70 that John inserted.  He regards this as highly unlikely.  However, those who insist that Revelation was written before AD 70 understand this as a prophecy without the complication of a late date for Revelation.  In either case, it would be an inaccurate prophecy.  (See also Morris, 144)  However, this is not the view of some.  See the Preterist views of Russell below.
2.       Dispensationalists understand these verses to indicate that the Temple will be built in the last days.  Ladd argues that the Dispensationalists are forced to admit that parts of chapter 11 are symbolic and that this dictates that verses 11:1-2 are also symbolic.  He quotes Walvoord as conceding this.  (I believe this is a misreading of Walvoord.  See my comments on Pentecost and Walvoord below.)  I am not clear why the symbolism of later parts of the chapter create the problem for the first two verses.  I argue below that there are other considerations that bring me to regard these verses as not having a strictly literal interpretation.
3.       Others regard the “Temple” of 11:1-2 to refer to the church (See ESVSB.).  I argue this below.  Ladd rejects this interpretation, as I indicate in the next paragraph.  Metzger bases his interpretation on the date of Revelation, which he places in the 90’s (Metzger, 68).  He also considers measuring to be preparation for building and repairing.  So, “John is given a measuring rod so that he can restore and revive the church.”  (Metzger, 69)  Morris also believes that the Temple represents the church.  He asserts that John’s act of measurement is a statement of God’s protection.  “This does not mean that none will perish.  There will be martyrs.  But the church will not be destroyed.”  (Morris, 146)  Rist similarly understands that 11:1-2 refers to the church, especially the martyrs.  They will experience persecution (as the later verses of the chapter indicate) and die, but will live forever in the New Jerusalem (see chapter 21).  The measuring of them is a protection from “all spiritual and supernatural dangers.”  (Rist, 444)
4.       Ladd and others believe that these verses (and other parts of the chapter) are a statement of the preservation of a believing remnant of Israel (i.e. a group that accepts Christ).  In his argument, Ladd refers to Romans 9-11.  He contends that Paul in those chapters predicts that eventually Israel will return to Christ and “all Israel will be saved” (Romans 11:26).  I certainly agree with that assessment.  By “all Israel” I understand Paul to mean that ultimately the majority of the nation will accept Jesus as Messiah, Lord, and Savior.  Ladd then says:  “It is difficult to interpret these three chapters [Romans 9-11] symbolically of the church—the spiritual Israel.” (Ladd, 150)  I agree, but I cannot see how that necessarily relates to Revelation 11:1-2.  Somehow, Ladd considers that Romans 9-11 is a justification for considering that Revelation 11:1-2 is referring to the ultimate salvation if Israel.  He then says that “Revelation 11 is John’s way of predicting the preservation of the Jewish people and their final salvation.”  (Ladd, 151)  It seems to me that he does not establish his conclusion very well.
THE PRETERIST VIEWS OF RUSSELL
                J. S. Russell is adamant that verses 11:1-2 fit well into his scheme of interpretation.  These verses, he writes, are evidence that Revelation is describing events “in the days of John.” (423) The verses describe the literal Temple and literal city of Jerusalem and predict their destruction. (423) He believes the act of measuring is a symbol of that destruction. (424)       
               Russell rejects the idea that the “court outside the temple” refers to the court of the Gentiles, since it was already given to the Gentiles, in his understanding (426).  Thus, he believes that the outer court would be the court (or courts) immediately adjacent to the Temple proper.  He then explains what is meant that this court was given to the Gentiles.  He tells of how a group of outlaw Edomites (Idumeans) was allowed into the city before the Roman siege and how they occupied the precincts of the Temple.  It was they, he said, who trampled the city for 42 months.  He relates this directly to Jesus’ prediction of Luke 21:24b.  Revelation 11:2b and Luke 21:24b both refer to the trampling of Jerusalem by the Edomites, in his view.  The period of 42 months is equal to the approximate time from when Vespasian was first ordered by Nero to subdue the Jewish rebellion (January, AD 67) until Jerusalem fell (September, AD 70). (Russell, 426-429)    
               I believe that Russell has not read Josephus correctly.  First, the Idumean forces are not described by Josephus as outlaws.  Second, the Idumeans were not present throughout the period that Russell indicates.  They did enter Jerusalem and joined forces with the zealots for a period of time.  Then they left.  They were gone before Vespasian heard of Nero’s death.  This means they were absent from Jerusalem almost two years before its collapse in September, 70.  Thus, Russell’s equation of the bloody presence of the Idumeans in Jerusalem with the “trampling of Jerusalem” for 42 months is not true.  It appears that the Idumeans may have been present for few months at most. (Whiston, 669-688)
               Russell engages briefly the issue of whether 11:1-2 imply a contrast in the fate of the “Temple” and Jerusalem.  Then, he does not come back to that issue, which I believe is essential in understanding these verses.  His contention, as I have mentioned, is that the act of measurement is a prediction of destruction.  He cites a number of Scriptures to prove his point (424-426).  However, some of these do not necessarily support his point.  (In the following survey, I have included both those Scriptures that Russell cites as well as additional references.)  In some cases, it is true that the use of a measuring line represented God’s precision in judgment (see NIVSB on Lamentations 2:7-8):  see Isaiah 34:11, Lamentations 2:7-8, and Amos 7:17.  In one case, the role of the measuring line is to provide a standard of judgment—one might say it is unbiased as to the outcome:  see II Kings 21:12-13.  In one case the measuring line is a standard that promises the just reign of God:  see Isaiah 28:17.  In one case the “plumb line” is the metaphor and the measuring line is not mentioned:  see Amos 7:6-9.  In some cases the measuring line is used to predict restoration or new construction of the city or Temple:  see Jeremiah 31:39, Ezekiel 40, Zechariah 1:16 and 2:1ff, and Revelation 21:15-16.  From this survey it appears that the use of the measuring rod does not give us a certain clue as to the meaning of the verses without some context.  When, however, we note that there is an implied contrast between what is measured and what is omitted, the meaning seems to be clear.  What is omitted is given to the Gentiles.  Since the Gentiles will trample the Holy City, it seems to follow that the court that is omitted will also be trampled.  Jesus warned us not to throw our pearls before pigs, for they might trample them. (Matthew 7:6)  Why?  They are beasts that do not appreciate the value of the pearl.  He was referring to unspiritual people who do not value spiritual truth because their spiritual deadness renders them insensitive.  (See also I Corinthians 2:14.)  So, the Gentiles will trample on what is holy—Jerusalem.  The outer court, which is omitted from the measurement, is also the province of the Gentiles.  It follows that it will be trampled along with the Holy City.  Thus, there is a contrast between that which is measured off and kept separate and that which is trampled.  It is not measured in preparation for judgment, but is measured off in protection from the trampling of the Gentiles. 
               If my analysis is correct, then Russell’s contention that these verses fit well with the AD 70 destruction of Jerusalem and the Temple is incorrect.  These verses indicate that the Temple will be preserved in the midst of the trampling of the Holy City.  That was not true in AD 70.  But I believe it will be true of the Temple of God in the last days.  This Temple will not be a building but rather the people of God.  I develop this idea in the next section.  This preservation does not necessarily mean that all Christians will escape death and suffering.  That has not been true throughout history and will not be true in the last days.  But the people of God will not be utterly overthrown.  Even today, faithful Christians are being slaughtered, displaced, and otherwise terribly persecuted in the Middle East, China, and elsewhere.  Yet they stand strong for God.  Let us constantly pray for them.     
PENTECOST AND WALVOORD ON 11:1-2
               Pentecost and Walvoord are two prominent Dispensationalists.  Oddly, Pentecost has very little to say concerning Revelation 11:1-2.  His comments regarding these verses are in relation to two areas of focus.  First, he discusses the verses in relation to the Mid-Tribulation Rapture Theory, which is a Dispensationalist theory that believes the Rapture of the church will take place at the midpoint of the Tribulation period.  Pentecost rejects this theory (Pentecost, 179-188).  I shall not go into his arguments.  In the course of those arguments, he discusses his own understanding of the chronology of Revelation.  His understanding of chapter 11 is especially important for his chronology.  I have used his theory as a basis for my own outline of Revelation (see above).  Pentecost also discusses the verses in relation to the “times of the Gentiles,” (Pentecost, 314ff) which I have discussed elsewhere in this article.  He does not comment on the temple during the Tribulation period.
               Walvoord gives more explicit commentary on 11:1-2.  He believes that the measuring of the temple and its environs implies that “they are measured and found short.”  The temple, he says, has been desecrated by the Antichrist/Beast and has become the center of worship of him.  “Measuring the temple will indicate the apostasy of the nation of Israel and their need for revival and restoration.”  He states that Israel has not been able to control the “holy places” since the time of the Babylonian captivity “except by Gentile tolerance and permission.”  “The forty-two months, however, refer to the great tribulation as a time when the holy place in the temple will be desecrated especially, and the great tribulation will run its course, climaxing in the second coming of Christ (13:5).”  He states that the “holy place… will never be permanently theirs [Israel’s] until the second coming of Christ.”
               Walvoord’s comments rest on some assumptions, as follows:
·         The temple will be rebuilt before or during the Tribulation period.
·         It will be the location of the revelation of the Antichrist/Beast when he declares himself to be God.  (II Thessalonians 2:4)
·         It will be the location of worship during the Millennium (see Pentecost, 512ff, in which he argues that temple worship, including animal sacrifices will take place during the Millennium).
I do not necessarily share all of these assumptions.  I believe it is possible that the Jews will build a temple in the last days.  However, I do not believe that temple worship, especially animal sacrifices, will be valid worship.  Pentecost claims that such worship would serve as a memorial to Christ’s sacrifice.  This means that communion would not be a valid form of worship.  This reasoning is based partly on the Dispensationalist framework of an abrupt and complete separation between the church and the program of God for Israel and the Millennium.  I believe this is faulty reasoning and that it ignores much New Testament teaching concerning the people of God. 
               With these considerations in mind, I believe that Walvoord’s depiction of the temple and the “holy place” is a misunderstanding.  The “holy place” of the temple is obsolete since a new and living way into intimacy with God has been established through the cross of Jesus (see Hebrews 10:19-22).  Therefore, I think that II Thessalonians 2:4 must be thought through with these considerations in mind (I hope to do that in another article). 
               Moreover, it seems to me that Walvoord makes the same exegetical mistake that Russell makes (see above).  Both commentators fail to see a contrast between the things that are measured off, on the one hand, and the things that are trampled, on the other.  Walvoord indicates that 11:1-2 is describing a desecration and trampling of the temple by the Gentiles.  The wording of the passage seems to me to say just the opposite:  the Temple, altar, and the worshipers will be separated from the outer court and the Holy City, which will be trampled.  By ignoring this contrast, Walvoord interprets the measuring to imply that the temple comes up short.  Because this exegetical mistake reinforces the assumptions that I have outlined above, Walvoord is able to make these verses “fit” his Dispensational scheme.  If one recognizes the contrast, however, then one has to account for why the temple is not trampled.  I believe that my conclusion—that the “Temple” is really a symbol for the people of God—accounts for the protection of the Temple while the city is trampled.  (See my further comments.)
NEW TESTAMENT WORDS THAT ARE TRANSLATED “TEMPLE”
                In arguing that “Temple” in 11:1-2 refers to the people of God, I shall begin by considering the words that are translated “temple.”  In the New Testament, two words are used for “temple”—hieron and naos.  There are several meanings, generally clear from the context.  The “temple” could refer to the entire temple complex, which was composed of many buildings, or it could refer to the temple proper or inner sanctuary, composed of the holy place and the most holy place.  In addition, the word “temple” could refer to the general use of a place of worship that would include the Jewish Temple and pagan shrines.  “Temple” also is used to refer to the temple of heaven, to the church as the dwelling place of God’s Spirit, and to the individual Christian’s body as a dwelling place of the Spirit.  The uses of hieron and naos in these applications are as follows:


HIERON
NAOS
OCCURENCES
66
39
MEANING:


“ENTIRE
TEMPLE”
60
6
AMBIGUOUS
5
5
“INNER
TEMPLE”
0
9
THE CHURCH
0
4
INDIVIDUAL
CHRISTIAN’S
BODY
0
1
“GENERAL OR
PAGAN
SHRINE OR
TEMPLE”
1
2
“HEAVENLY
SANCTUARY”
0
10
USE IN
REVELATION
11:1-2
0
2

Note also the following observations:
·         Hieron is used only once after the gospels and Acts (in I Corinthians 9:13).  It almost always refers to the entire Temple complex.
·         All the uses of naos in the epistles (with the possible exception of II Thessalonians 2:4) are referring to the church or the body as the temple of God.
·         In Revelation, naos is used to refer to the “heavenly sanctuary” 10 times.  It is used to refer to the idea of a building to be used as a temple once (Revelation 21:22:  no temple will be found in eternity because the Lord and the Lamb will be the Temple).  That leaves the present verses, Revelation 11:1-2.
Thus, outside the epistles and Acts, “temple” (naos) is used in a way that we might term the “spiritual reality” of a temple and not a building.  It is used to describe the church as God’s dwelling because the Holy Spirit is present in the congregation of God’s people.  (See Metzger, 69.)  It is also used to describe an individual Christian’s body:  the person walks around with the Holy Spirit present within him.  It is also used to signify the presence of God in heaven, in the company of angels and the souls of the righteous dead.  In each of these cases, the reality of God’s presence is real.  This is not to say that God’s presence was not in the Jewish Temple in the Old Testament order, but the message of the New Testament is that God’s Spirit is experienced through our faith in Jesus Christ.  Jesus described this era in John 4:23-24:
But the hour is coming, and is now here, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for the Father is seeking such people to worship him. God is spirit , and those who worship him must worship in spirit and truth.”
There are three ambiguous exceptions to this use of naos outside the gospels and Acts:  II Thessalonians 2:4 and Revelation 11:1-2.  Both of them refer to the end times (at least for futurists).  I shall discuss, I hope, the II Thessalonians passage in another article. 
                John was measuring the people of God as they were marked off by God in the face of the trampling of the Gentiles.  The term “nations” (ESV) or “Gentiles” (NIV) (ethne) is used in the New Testament in some places to refer to unregenerate Gentiles (I Corinthians 12:2, Ephesians 4:17 ((“other” [KJV] is not in the Greek)), I Peter 2:12, 4:3, 3 John 7).  Hence, the term “Gentiles” need not be contrasted with Jews, but rather with all the people of God. 
                This portion of chapter 11 (11:1-13) is somewhat parallel to chapter 7.  In that chapter, the people of God are depicted in two scenes, the sealing of the 144,000 and the great multitude before the throne.  These pictures of the people of God are an interlude in the description of the seven seals—between seals 6 and 7.  The material of 10:1-11:13 is also an interlude—between trumpets 6 and 7.  There is considerable material in chapter 10 that does not relate directly to the people of God, but the material in 11:1-13 certainly seems to depict the people of God in the tribulation.  Thus, the two sets of material regarding the people of God in chapters 7 and 11 seem to be in parallel.  This strengthens the case that we should understand the measuring of the temple, the altar, and the worshipers as a statement of God’s special attention to the people of God.
THE ALTAR
                 The message of the New Testament is quite clear:  Temple worship and the offering of sacrifices are obsolete because of the one and only sacrifice of Jesus on the cross for our sins.  This is made clear in Hebrews 9 and 10.  Therefore, when we find reference to the Temple and the altar in Revelation, we need to be cautious and ask exactly what is meant.  Although the Dispensationalists, in some cases, believe that animal sacrifices will be offered during the Millennium, I cannot accept that this would be a valid form of worship.  In Hebrews 13:10, the author says:  “We have an altar from which those who serve the tent have no right to eat.”  The context is false teaching which seemed to be coming either from Judaizers (Jewish Christians who pressured Gentiles to observe Jewish customs, including circumcision) or Jews who were pressuring Jewish Christians to come back to Judaism.  The “tent” refers to the tabernacle.  The writer of Hebrews does not use “Temple” in the book, but rather refers to the tabernacle, the tent that served as a model for the Temple.  The priests who served in the “tent” could eat parts of some the animal sacrifices as well as the bread that was offered to God.  But the author of Hebrews says that they, because they have rejected Christ, have missed out on the only real sacrifice that ever took place—the death of Jesus on the cross.  Jesus said:
Whoever feeds on my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up on the last day. For my flesh is true food, and my blood is true drink.  (John 6:54-55)
Although some sacramentalists would say that this refers to communion or the mass, I believe that it refers to deep union with Christ through faith.  Communion is a sacramental statement of that union.  Paul in I Corinthians 10:18-22 deals with these issues from a different standpoint.  He refers to the Hebrew priests who ate of the sacrifices (as well as lay persons in some of the rituals).  These persons were “participants” in the altar.  The Greek word is “kononoi” (related to the word “kononia”) which can be “partners.”  He was warning that to eat animals sacrificed to demonic idols could, in some cases, be a partnership with demons. Thus, the Christian, through faith and in the communion, shares deeply with
Christ—similar to Paul’s “knowing” Christ as he describes it in Philippians 3:10.  So, for the Christian, the altar that we identify with is the death of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.  It seems to me that the New Testament is built around that altar.  In Revelation 11:1-2, John is measuring the Temple, the altar, and the worshipers.  They are the people of God who are the Temple of the Holy Spirit, built around the cross of Jesus Christ.  Though the Gentiles will trample the Holy City, God has measured off a people, a temple, and an altar that will not be utterly defeated. 
THE TRAMPLING OF THE HOLY CITY (11:2):  THE USE OF “CITY” IN REVELATION
                The Holy City, it is said, is “given over” to the “nations,” who will trample it for 42 months.  I shall consider the three subjects that are brought up in this statement:  the Holy City, the nations—or Gentiles, and the 42 months.   
                To begin to fathom what is involved in the mention of the city, one must notice the prominence of “city” in Revelation.  It is used 26 times.  In 3:12, the “city of my God” is identified as the “New Jerusalem.”  The conqueror in the church at Philadelphia will have that name written upon him or her.  The New Jerusalem is described in chapter 21 and 22.  It represents the paradise of the redeemed.  It bears the names of both the apostles and the tribes of Israel (21:12-14).  I take that to mean it represents the eternal unity of the people of God.  It is also described as the bride of Christ (21:9-10).  I take that to mean that the people of God will be forever in union with their Savior, Jesus Christ.  It bears the name of “Jerusalem,” the ancient capital of the Israel, where the Temple was, where David reigned.  It was to Jerusalem that the Israelites went up for the feasts to worship God.  A whole set of Psalms are written to celebrate those pilgrimages, to capture the anticipation of the pilgrims as they approached the Holy City.
                However, there are two other cities mentioned in Revelation.  One of them is Babylon (chapters 17 and 18).  There are a number of interpretations of what Babylon is, but I shall delay a detailed consideration of them.  It sufficient to say that Babylon is evil and is opposed to the people of God.  In the letters to three of the seven churches, the churches are described by the context of the cities that surrounded them.  The church at Smyrna was slandered by the Jews, imprisoned, and anticipated further persecution (2:8-11).  The church at Pergamum lived where Satan had his throne.  One of their members was killed in Pergamum, dying as a martyr to the faith (2:12-17).  The church at Philadelphia was harassed and lied about by the Jews who worshiped at the “synagogue of Satan” (3:7-13).  Moreover, another city dominated the scene of the first century Mediterranean world—Rome.  In 17:18, Babylon is described as “the great city that has dominion over the kings of the earth.”  Obviously that city was Rome.  However, Rome also is a symbol for that which has dominion over all nations in all generations.  Rome was not simply a city in Italy.  It was an empire that dominated the Mediterranean basin.  Its power and influence came about through military strength, through organizational genius, through the pervasion of Greco-Roman culture, through the exaltation of human strength and ability without regard for the God of the Bible.  Therefore it was the enemy and persecutor of the church.  Morris interprets Babylon as follows:  “She stands for civilized man apart from God, man in organized but godless community…”  (Morris, 202-203)
                The other city is Jerusalem, which is described in 11:8.  Its name is not mentioned, but it is identified as the city “where their [the two witnesses’] Lord was crucified.”  It is “symbolically called Sodom and Egypt.”  Sodom was an evil city that harassed righteous Lot and was condemned to destruction by God (Genesis 18 and 19, II Peter 2:7).  Egypt was the pagan nation that enslaved the Hebrew people.  In 11:8 ESV translates “spiritually” as “symbolically.”  That could be considered an accurate rendering of the word, yet I think it loses some of the impact of what is being said.  This city had a spiritual nature that was equivalent to the spiritual nature of Sodom and Egypt.  It is also called a “great” city.  Although this might refer to its size (which would be of no great importance), it is likely to refer to its importance.  Jerusalem was the center of Hebrew life until its destruction (see below).  Eventually, it would rebound as an important center not only of Hebrew life, but of Muslim worship and of Christian interest.  Today, it stands at the center of Middle Eastern turmoil and once more can be called a “great” city. 
                So, we have the following uses of “city” in the book of Revelation:
·         Cities were the evil context in which the seven churches struggled to maintain their loyalty to Jesus.
·         “Babylon” is the city—an entire civilization—that opposes itself to God and the people of God.
·         Jerusalem is described both as the “Holy City” and the city with the spiritual nature of Sodom and Egypt.
·         The New Jerusalem is God’s great future for His people.  It is huge, beautiful, and full of the light of God. 
                The fact that Jerusalem is mentioned provides fuel for the fire of Preterism.  Since it was destroyed in AD 70, one could infer that Revelation had to be written before that date.  There are three possible considerations of date:
1.       The conservative Preterist view would be that the book was written before AD 70.  The problem this creates is that chapter 11 includes inaccurate prophecy:  Verse 11:2 implies that the Temple will be preserved when the Gentiles trample it.  This did not occur. 
2.       The liberal Preterist view is that the book was written as though it had been written before AD 70 and had predicted the destruction of Jerusalem.  However, this again would include an inaccurate prophecy as I described in number 1.
3.       The futurist view is that the book was written in the late first century with full knowledge of the destruction of Jerusalem.  It is predicting a later rebuilding of Jerusalem and (perhaps) of the Temple.
I subscribe to view number 3, with some question as to the rebuilding of the Temple.  I do believe that 11:2 and 11:8 indicates a future role of Jerusalem during the last days.  By “future role” I mean future to the time of John’s writing Revelation.  This would be on the basis that Jerusalem was destroyed in AD 70 and that John very likely wrote Revelation around AD 95.  Morris has summarized arguments for an early and a late date of writing (Morris, 34-40).  His conclusion (he has no ax to grind) is that a late date is more likely, and this conforms to the ancient tradition:  Irenaeus dates the writing to the time of Domitian (in the 90’s) (Morris, 34).  Note that the two Preterist views create logical traps (see 1 and 2 above), whereas a futurist view does not tie the events of chapter 11 to the events of AD 70. 
                I do have to face a logical trap of my own.  That goes as follows.  If I advocate a spiritual or symbolical interpretation of “Temple” in verses 11:1-2, why must I advocate a literal interpretation of “Holy City” in verse 11:2 and 11:8?  Note that the expression in Revelation 11:2 is very similar to Luke 21:24b:
…Jerusalem will be trampled underfoot [underfoot is not in accepted original] by the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled. (Luke 21:24b)
…but do not measure the court outside the temple; leave that out, for it is given over to the nations, and they will trample the holy city for forty-two months. (Revelation 11:2)
The quotation from Luke is part of the Olivet Discourse.  I have discussed this passage previously.  There is one viewpoint that the statement of Luke 21:24 (entire verse) is referring to the events of AD 70 and the aftermath of those events throughout history.  I shall discuss the use of 42 months below.  It seems that the “trampling” by the Gentiles is common to these two verses and refers to the same or similar sets of circumstances.  The fate of the city is that it is to be trampled.  Note that Jerusalem is referred to both as “holy” in 11:2 and as spiritually Sodom and Egypt.  The spiritual condition is related to the crucifixion of Jesus.  Because the city and the nation that it led rejected and crucified Jesus and persecuted His followers, it was Sodom and Egypt.  However, because it represented, and still represents, the people of God, it is the Holy City.  I reject the notion that it is only the capital of Israel, a people utterly separate from the church in God’s plans.  The fact that the New Jerusalem obviously will be the home of the united people of God—Old Testament saint, Gentile Christian, and Hebrew Christian—means that the Holy City is the capital of all the people of God.   
                On the other hand, Revelation 11:1-2 indicates that there is a demarcation between the “Temple” and the city.  We can take this as a literal building, but I have already developed the idea that the congregation of the people of God is in mind.  That group is demarcated from the city and the fate of that group is different from the fate of the city.  It should also be emphasized that the trampling of the Holy City is a temporary fate, not the ultimate fate.  The ultimate fate of the Holy City is for the New Jerusalem to take its place when God makes all things new (Revelation 21:1-5). 
                Morris has a somewhat different view.  The Holy City he takes to represent the church, but from a different aspect than when the Temple is used to refer to the church.  The Gentiles will oppress the church, but only under the oversight of God.  They are “given” the City.  This verb—“given”—is often used to refer obliquely to the sovereignty of God.  Moreover, the Gentiles have only a limited time to do their trampling—42 months. (Morris, 146) 
                However, it seems to me that the literal Jerusalem is being referred to.  I base this on the parallelism between Revelation 11:2 and Luke 21:24b.  I maintain that the literal Jerusalem and the symbolic Temple can be referred to in the same set of verses.  This emphasizes the fact that the people of God are tied inextricably to the ancient people of God whose capital was Jerusalem.  This issue is often a source of debate and confusion.  I believe that a careful reading of the New Testament helps us to understand that the church is not a separate entity from Israel, but has been joined to the historic people of God.    
THE “NATIONS”
                The term ethne may be translated as “nations,” “Gentiles” or “pagans.”  Generally, “kingdoms” (basileiai) is used to refer to nations in their political identity.  Although nations as political entities will trample the city, they will do so as anti-Christians, opposed to the people of God.
                Jesus referred to the “times of the Gentiles” in Luke 21:24b.  The word “times” is the plural of kairos.  This is “time” in which the emphasis is on significance.  So, the “times of the Gentiles” would be the eras that are marked by the roles of the Gentiles.  Pentecost discusses this period (Pentecost, 314ff).  He describes it as beginning with the Babylonian captivity.  That event marked the end of Judah/Israel as an independent kingdom.  The Hebrew people would live from that time on through the succession of world empires that is described in Daniel, especially in chapters 2-7.  Daniel’s central message is that those empires would ultimately fall and be destroyed and the Kingdom of God would fill the earth.  (See Daniel 2:44, 7:26-27.)  In the first century, one of those empires, Rome, was in ascendancy.  Jesus indicated in Luke 21:24b that the Gentile “times” would continue through the destruction of Jerusalem and for an indefinite time after that.  Those “times of the Gentiles” would be marked by the trampling of Jerusalem (which probably includes a trampling of the Hebrew people in general).  In Revelation 11:2, we also see that the “nations” or “Gentiles” are trampling over Jerusalem.
THE 42 MONTHS
                The 42 months is a time period that comes up quite often in prophetic Scripture.  This period is one-half of seven years.  Seven years is the length of a “week” of years.  Daniel predicted a period of 70 weeks of years (Daniel 9:24-27).  The 70th week is generally considered to be a separate period from the first consecutive 69 weeks in that passage.  Thus, that 70th week of Daniel is found to be referred to numerous times.  Moreover, the seven-year period is understood to be divided into two 3 ½ year periods.  The dividing point, it is believed by many, will be marked by the revelation of the Beast/Antichrist when he reveals his true identity as the man of lawlessness (see Matthew 24:15, II Thessalonians 2:4, Revelation 13:5).  So, the 42 months in Revelation 11:2 is understood by many to be the second half of the seventieth week of Daniel or the Great Tribulation.  (See Metzger, 69, and Morris, 147.)  Rist ties the prediction of persecution to John’s own time:  “It is evident that for John the reign of the Antichrist, which will be the final period of persecution of the Christians by the Romans, is to last this traditional period of years [42 months], a belief that is stated explicitly in 13:5-6.”  (Rist, 444) 
                Although I have argued above for a parallelism between Luke 21:24b and Revelation 11:2, there is a difference.  In Luke, Jesus seems to indicate that the trampling will take place beginning in AD 70 and continuing throughout the “the time of the Gentiles.”  In Revelation 11:2, the trampling is limited to 42 months.  Some believe that Jesus was referring to the seventieth week in Luke 21:20-24.  However, the description in the Luke version of the Olivet Discourse differs from Matthew 24 and Mark 13.  The Luke passage describes armies surrounding Jerusalem and the fate of the people of Israel.  His words seem to describe the events of AD 70 and the aftermath.  On the other hand, the Matthew and Mark versions emphasize the Abomination of Desolation and the Great Tribulation and seem to fit better to the Tribulation Period.  Luke 24:25ff then seems to come back into a close parallel to Matthew 24:29ff Mark 13:24ff.  I propose the following: 

Luke
Matthew
Mark
Description
Comment
21:5-8
24:1-5
13:1-6
Introduction and
Beginning of Discourse
Narrative

21:9-11
24:6-8
13:7-8
General course of
History

21:12-19


The future for the
Apostles
Begins with “before this”:  Jesus comes back to what the future holds for the apostolic church

24:9-14
13:9-13
The future for the
church
Begins with “then”:  continues the overview of the church age but from the standpoint of the church
21:20-24


Events of AD 70
and the aftermath
Begins with armies
Surrounding Jerusalem; Jesus is continuing the history of the apostolic age into the period of the Roman-Jewish war; the “times of the Gentiles” can include AD 70 through to the Second Coming

24:15-28
13:14-23
The events of the
Tribulation period
Begins with the Abomination of Desolation, which is probably at the mid-point of the seven-year period before the Second Coming; the Tribulation period becomes much more intense in the second half and is designated the Great Tribulation
21:25-27
24:29-31
13:24-27
The Second Coming
Luke and Matthew/Mark now come back together; the “times of the Gentiles” of Luke 21:24 are ended by the Second Coming; this corresponds with the conclusion of the Great Tribulation, which is ended by the Second Coming

From this chart, one can see that the statement of Jerusalem’s being trampled is described by Jesus as a fate that plays out from AD 70 onward.  However, it is possible that there will be a brief respite from this trampling, during the first half of the seven-year Tribulation period.  The scenario is that the Beast/Antichrist will make a covenant with the Hebrew people.  This covenant may include access to Jerusalem.  Note that today Jerusalem remains a city in conflict between Jew and Arab.  That conflict may be ended some day.  In the middle of the seven years, Antichrist/Beast will break the covenant.  There will follow a three and a half year (42 month) trampling by the Gentiles.  Thus, we can harmonize Luke 21:24 and Revelation 11:2 as follows:
·         Luke 21:24 describes the fate of the Hebrew people from AD 70 through to the Second Coming.
·         That period includes the final seven years before the Second Coming.
·         The first 3 ½ years of that period will be peaceful.
·         The final 3 ½ years will be a time trampling by the Gentiles.  This is described by Revelation 11:2.
I do not believe that the initial 3 ½ year period (first half of Tribulation period) is necessarily a respite from being trampled, in the spiritual sense.  I base that on the following considerations:
·         If the Hebrews make a compact with the Beast/Antichrist, they will be essentially in league with the devil and remain under the power of the godless Gentiles.
·         For this reason, Revelation 11:8 describes Jerusalem as “Sodom and Egypt.” It was Sodom and Egypt when it crucified Jesus and when it persecuted the church, and it will be when it is in league with the Beast/Antichrist.
·         Thus, the trampling of Jerusalem until the end of the times of the Gentiles will continue unabated throughout history and through the final seven years before the Second Coming.  The following charts may be helpful:

Time
Period
Description
Character
Of Israel
Including
Jerusalem
Scripture
About
AD 30
Christ
Crucified
Sodom
And
Egypt
The 4 gospels, etc.
AD 30-70
Jews in
Opposition
To
Christians
Sodom
And
Egypt
(hardening)
Romans 11:7 and 11:25
AD 70
Destruction
Of Jerusalem
And the
Temple
Judgment
For
Rejection
Of Christ
Luke 21:20-24a
AD 70 to and
including
70th
Week*
Jews
Scattered
Until
1948
Continued
Judgment
Luke 21:24b

Time
Period
Description
Character
Of Israel
Including
Jerusalem
Scripture
1st 3 ½ years
Of  70th
Week
Israel in
League
With
Antichrist/
Beast;
Jerusalem
Spiritually
trampled
Sodom
And
Egypt
Luke 21:24b, Daniel 9:27a

Middle of
70th Week
Beast
Reveals
himself

Matthew 24:15-20,
Mark 13:14-18, Daniel 9:27b
II Thessalonians 2:1-12, esp. 2:4,
Revelation 13:5-6
2nd 3 ½ years
Of 70th
Week
Beast
Breaks
The
Covenant,
Jerusalem
Especially
trampled
Sodom
And
Egypt
Matthew 24:21-26,
Mark 13:19-23
Revelation 11:2b
Revelation 13:7-18
Second
Coming
Israel
Receives
Christ
All Israel
Shall be
Saved
Romans 11:26,
Zechariah 12 and 13, esp. 12:10, 13:1
Matthew 24:27-31
Mark 13:24-27
Luke 21:25-27
I Thessalonians 4:13-18
Revelation 19:11-21
*The 70th Week is often referred to as the Tribulation period.  Others refer only to the 2nd half as the Tribulation period; others refer to the 2nd half as the Great Tribulation.
SUMMARY:
                Revelation 11:1-2 challenge various approaches to interpretation of the book.  The verses contain the command for John to measure the Temple, the altar, and the worshipers.  It states that the outer court is given to the Gentiles and that they will trample the Holy City for 42 months.
                The most pressing of all questions that this passage gives rise to is whether this is a literal Temple. 
·         Those with various Preterist approaches assume that this is the literal Temple of the first century.  I have argued that there is an implied contrast between the trampling of the City and the measured off Temple.  I believe this indicates the Temple will be spared from trampling.  This conclusion is evidence against the idea that the first century Temple is in view.
·         The Dispensationalist approach assumes that this is a literal last-day Temple.  I have argued that such a Temple would not be sanctioned by God because the New Testament redemption through the cross of Jesus has rendered the Temple and its altar obsolete.
·         Ladd and some others have considered that this Temple refers to a last-day Jewish believing remnant, which they believe is predicted in Romans 9-11.  I have argued that the Temple is symbolic of the unified people of God, which would include a Jewish remnant.  I cannot see that there is evidence that the material of chapter 11 refer to the final salvation of the Jews.
·         I agree with those who believe the Temple and its altar are symbols of the people of God.  This symbolism is used throughout the New Testament epistles.  The Temple is the residence of the Holy Spirit and the altar reminds us of the one effective sacrifice that Jesus has made on the cross.  These people are measured, but the area of the Holy City that is omitted from the measurement is to be trampled by the Gentiles—the pagan world of nations. 
                The “Holy City” is a reference to Jerusalem, which is potentially a holy place, but is subject to trampling by the Gentiles.  As the centerpiece of the Hebrew people, its fate is representative of the Hebrew people.  Their fate was pronounced by Jesus in Luke 21:24 to be trampled throughout the “times of the Gentiles” until the Second Coming.  The reference to Jerusalem is consistent with the theme of “city” throughout Revelation.  Other cities include the environment of the seven churches of chapters 2 and 3, Rome, Babylon—representative of the world organized against God and the people of God, and the New Jerusalem—the ultimate destiny of the redeemed people of God.
                The period of 42 months—3 ½ years--during which trampling will take place is consistent with one-half of the 70th Week of Daniel or Tribulation period. 
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